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kajp
    Nope, iTunes 11 sucks.
    samharman
      @kieranajp Yeah, it's terrible… I don't understand it! They are renowned for thinking up the best solutions for tech problems…
      kajp
        @samharman Search is completely broken, this is ridiculous, such a step backwards in UX even if it is really pretty.
        samharman
          @kieranajp I don't even think it's that pretty. It's disgusting!
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            kajp
              @indigo @samharman I found it on itunes.com first, then decided to check software update and found it there
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                samharman
                  @indigo http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/ Just click Download Now… no need to put in any details!
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                    samharman
                      @indigo It's really not worth the hype! Go on though… download it. I won't judge you!
                      kajp
                        @samharman Ah well, at least I wasn't expecting much. Back to Ecoute!
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                          samharman
                            @kieranajp I don't listen to music enough to warrant a complete replacement, but it does look quite nice!
                            samharman
                              @indigo Are you running Mac or PC ?
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                                kajp
                                  @samharman The only reason I ever open iTunes is to download something new off iTunes Match. I keep it chmod -x'd most of the time!
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                                    @kieranajp Ahhh, don't use match either! Seriously i have like 30 albums i listen to regularly… there's no point me even having iTunes!
                                    samharman
                                      @indigo Good! :) Have you tried repairing disk permissions?
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                                        samharman
                                          @indigo Hah, damn.. sound's like you have a fair few problems!
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                                                kajp
                                                  @indigo @samharman Match saved me so much hassle when my old hard disk died, and also I paid to have all my old crappy music I Limewire'd aged 14 turned into 256Kbps AAC so I can listen to it like a gentleman.
                                                  samharman
                                                    @indigo Try it, might let you delete the old backup files!
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                                                      kajp
                                                        @samharman @indigo I was young and impressionable okay?!
                                                        samharman
                                                          @indigo Cool, make sure to verify your disk permissions too! #NotFunnyIKnow
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                                                            kajp
                                                              @indigo @samharman Oh man, you missed out on many an embarrassing mistake ;)
                                                              samharman
                                                                @indigo @kieranajp I'm sorry, i think you must be mistaken. I refuse to believe there was a time with no internet. #TotallyRememberDialUpButAnythingEarlierIsHazy
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                                                                  samharman
                                                                    @indigo @kieranajp Sounds painful. Repair those bad boys!
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                                                                        @indigo @kieranajp Ahh to be honest, i usually skip the verify part, just repair the permissions straight away. Anything that's wrong needs repairing anyway!
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                                                                          @indigo @samharman Have you tried pulling down fresh and then compiling Stallman at runtime?
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                                                                              @indigo @samharman Don't know, totally made it up, but it sounded impressive no?
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                                                                                @kieranajp @indigo Totally, but we all know the real problem's with the flange decapiliary sensor getting jettisoned on an unhanded user error.
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                                                                                    @samharman @indigo What do you mean, this plane has no follanges?!
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                                                                                      @samharman @indigo We mustn't panic. WE MUSTN'T PANIC!
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                                                                                            @indigo @samharman Must be quite pleasant in November.
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                                                                                                @indigo @kieranajp Ahh three british people discussing the weather… Every conversation is inevitable!
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                                                                                                  @samharman I wasn't aware @indigo was British, but suddenly this conversation makes a whole lot more sense.
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                                                                                                    @kieranajp @indigo Actually, thinking about it… i don't know! :-/ #MayHaveMadeLifeError
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                                                                                                          @indigo @kieranajp Cool, try a power cycle (not a restart, but turn off and on again) then try removing those backups!
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                                                                                                            @samharman @indigo public void assumeUserIsBritish() throws new LifeErrorException { … }
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                                                                                                                @indigo @kieranajp I fear we've scared @indigo off with our geekery!
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                                                                                                                  @samharman @indigo I love how there's some tech help going on in between my terrible nerdy jokes in this thread.
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                                                                                                                    @kieranajp @indigo Imagine if tech support helplines were like this… intermingled with incredibly geeky and unrelated statements and jokes! Brilliant!
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                                                                                                                      @samharman @indigo That sounds like an untapped market if ever there was one
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                                                                                                                          @indigo @kieranajp :) I actually answer my home phone… "Hello, IT Support" now.
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                                                                                                                            @samharman @indigo Oh I am very deliberately NOT tech support. I'd never get anything else done.
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                                                                                                                              @kieranajp @indigo Yeah, i don't mind it for family. Fortunately most of my friends are highly technical!
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                                                                                                                                @samharman @indigo To be absolutely fair, I never get anything done anyway, so it wouldn't make much difference
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                                                                                                                                    @indigo @samharman Or *right*. Did I just blow your mind?
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                                                                                                                                        @indigo @kieranajp Ahh WiFi.. Now you're talking!
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                                                                                                                                            @indigo @samharman Ugh, now that IS boring, want to send him to sort out mine properly? Because I'm putting it off like a professional.
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                                                                                                                                              @kieranajp @indigo Haha, my entire job revolves around making WiFi related iOS Apps!
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                                                                                                                                                  @kieranajp @indigo To be honest, it's an easy problem to fix… get an Airport Express. Fantastic router, 5Ghz, all you'll ever need!
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                                                                                                                                                    @samharman @indigo Hmm, these days mine seems to be writing stuff in Markdown, but if it gets us new clients I guess… Oh I have one, and a Time Capsule too, but I fiddled and broke everything.
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                                                                                                                                                        @indigo @kieranajp Hmm, what Mac is it you've got?
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                                                                                                                                                          @kieranajp @indigo Actually i've been doing a painful amount of tech documentation lately, only got back to coding properly in the last few days!
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                                                                                                                                                                @indigo @kieranajp What version of OS X are you running? On which machine?
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                                                                                                                                                                    @indigo @kieranajp Bizzare, install it manually!
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                                                                                                                                                                      @indigo @samharman Woo I figured out why I'd killed my Airport at least, so that's my problem solved for tonight! http://cl.ly/LETL
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                                                                                                                                                                        @samharman @indigo It's probably an incremental rollout type thingy and your software update has cached or something.
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                                                                                                                                                                            @indigo @kieranajp Woah… two iPads. That's a pretty impressive fart! #Sorry #Immature
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                                                                                                                                                                              @samharman @indigo Shows how immature I am that I actually laughed in real life
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                                                                                                                                                                                @kieranajp @indigo Me too! And I knew it was coming!
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                                                                                                                                                                                    @indigo @samharman Did you not specify that you wanted a replacement that worked?
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                                                                                                                                                                                      @indigo @kieranajp Superb, and being serious a moment here. I honestly respect you so much for continuing this conversation, despite @kieranajp and I being incredibly immature!
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                                                                                                                                                                                            @samharman @indigo Ditto, not many can claim to be able to withstand this much trolling :p
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  @indigo @kieranajp Glad to hear it, maybe OS X help files should come with sarcasm and bad jokes as standard!
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      @indigo @kieranajp :) Hmm, I've had iTunes installer in a weird language before, hasn't seemed to affect it once it's installed!
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                                                                                                                                                                                                          @kieranajp @indigo Of course this could all be solved with a 'sudo rm -r…' #NotGoingToFinishThat
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                                                                                                                                                                                                              @indigo @kieranajp Oh that iPhoto file is just for the lolz… Don't ever say Apple doesn't have a sense of humour!
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @samharman @indigo Ugh, let's not talk about iPhoto, that's something else I'm putting off completely
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @indigo @kieranajp Yeah don't do that command…
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @samharman @indigo sudo rm -ri / is funnier because you have to answer yes to everything.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @indigo @kieranajp Ok, calm down… breath a bit… maybe go smell your Apple product retail packaging if you still have it… you'll come around!
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @indigo @samharman You went to all that effort just for that? I could have told you you'd hate it :p
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @kieranajp @indigo lol and so the end of another productive tech help session with @samharman and @kieranajp ... Join us next week for more of the same!
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @indigo @samharman Why not? Most people successfully avoid it
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @indigo @kieranajp I see you've recently completed the Apple brainwashing sessions. Congratulations, you'll never look back! :-D
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @indigo @samharman Some of it is a very long way away, it's true
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @samharman @indigo Haha why am I considering doing a podcast of ridiculous tech help
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @indigo @kieranajp haha, please do! I also deal in pest control!
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @indigo @samharman Okay, but please don't tell your friends, I like to have time to waste away on things other than sorting out my iPhoto
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @samharman @indigo Wonder if we'd get a listener
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @kieranajp @indigo like immature jokes and rubbish telly?
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @kieranajp @indigo I had a listener once... Turned out it was my mum.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @indigo @samharman My library corrupted itself about 10 months ago and I've been putting off fixing it ever since. Tempted to just archive it and buy Aperture or Lightroom or something.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @samharman @indigo I'd count that as 'eavesdropping' rather than an actual listener
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @indigo @kieranajp Alert: Serious conversation mingling with mindless chatter again!
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @indigo @samharman Thanks, that's actually really useful advice. In this thread! Who'd have thought it?!
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @kieranajp @indigo Who knew? Anyway guys I'm going to drop out for now! Things to do before it's tomorrow! It's been fun though!
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @indigo I've used both Lightroom and Aperture, I like Aperture better. I suggest you get the Demo of each and decide which works better for you. They both are excellent! //@kieranajp @samharman
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @indigo @samharman Er… we really should have put a disclaimer at the front of this thread for legal reasons, shouldn't we?
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @indigo @kieranajp oh I wish it was goodnight, I've got some unit testing to do! But goodnight for when the time comes! :)
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @samharman @indigo Yes I think it's about that time for me too, it's been a pleasure @indigo, always nice to make new friends (:
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @kieranajp @indigo yes to legal disclaimer, but remember we're on the Internet. That counts for something right?
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @bashfulpixie @indigo @samharman hmm okay, again that's useful, although it may be a way off when I finally stop procrastinating doing this ;) thanks!
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @indigo Oh that's a shame! Because they both are really good, but people should be allowed the chance to compare because one is better than the other depending your needs and workflow. //@kieranajp @samharman
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @samharman @indigo The law doesn't apply here, right?
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @indigo @kieranajp testings always happy when NSASSERT 1=1
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