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patrickrhone
    It is kind of sad that, in 2012, I have yet to see a blogging engine with a post editor designed for doing the very thing we online writers go there to do… Write.
    jdscolam
      @patrickrhone but while we feel sad about that, we can feel happy at #MondayNightDanceParty http://mndp.tv
      myfreeweb
        @patrickrhone blogging engines shouldn’t have text editors built in! UNIX Way: do one thing and do it well.
        patrickrhone
          @myfreeweb But, um, then what’s the point?
          patrickrhone
            @caffo Nope. I can’t host it on my own server and domain.
            ats
              @patrickrhone What would your ideal writing-focused blog post editor look like? Do the static blog engines that start with markdown not do it for you? (Admittedly, they are not non-fiddly.)
              shawnblanc
                @patrickrhone Wordpress has a “minimal” view for the editor that’s nice.
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                  nitinkhanna
                    @davidcaolo that sounds like a good idea... :)
                    zero
                      @patrickrhone Squarespace has a very nice post editor. It has a full-screen mode so you can focus on writing.
                      mschechter
                        @shawnblanc @patrickrhone I've only done it a few times, but the dropbox integration in Poster is also handy. Lets me write the way I want and post in a nice environment. You can also import MD and have it convert right over into HTML.
                        allidryer
                          @zero I didn't know that! Very cool.
                          jamesgowans
                            @zero @patrickrhone it’s a disaster in mobile safari, though.
                            ryanirelan
                              @shawnblanc @patrickrhone ExpressionEngine also has a “distraction free” view for any textarea field.
                              davmendels
                                @patrickrhone have you looked into Scriptogr.am? It’s working pretty well for me - just writing Markdown files and dropping them in a Dropbox. Nothing else. (Well, NVAlt + nothing).
                                voidfiles
                                  @shawnblanc @patrickrhone publishing, and writing seem like such different animals. Aren’t we expecting to much of our tools to do both?
                                  myfreeweb
                                    @patrickrhone, my blogging engine displays posts right from Dropbox. github.com/myfreeweb/markbox It’s hard to set up, but there’s a similar one that’s a service: calepin.co
                                    mlopca
                                      @patrickrhone I’ve been looking for something like that for a long time, without success.
                                      matthewlang
                                        @patrickrhone Have you seen this idea for a new blogging platform? Minimal interface and Markdown support are just two of the highlights I thought you would like - http://d.pr/bPGl
                                        phillipwong
                                          @shawnblanc @patrickrhone You could use a CMS which uses a flat file structure instead of a database, then you could write your posts into a text file in markdown, textile… in your favourite minimalist text editor
                                          zei
                                            @myfreeweb @patrickrhone There's also http://scriptogr.am which I really like the simplicity and flexibility of, but as they are free I don't really trust that they'll be around forever.
                                            sivy
                                              @zei @myfreeweb @patrickrhone Also (and no relation to @myfreeweb's project of the same nape) there's my new service http://www.markbox.io - in Beta and fast.
                                              jshmllr
                                                @jamesgowans @zero @patrickrhone the Wordpress app isn’t half bad in full screen, but it does not have a mobile safari interface
                                                jshmllr
                                                  @mschechter @shawnblanc @patrickrhone I like the writing workflow Drafts, Writer, Poster, then double check desktop safari for proper text placement and web rendering
                                                  myfreeweb
                                                    @zei @patrickrhone that's why I created markbox. also, custom templates
                                                    nekozeppelin
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                                                      danielw
                                                        @patrickrhone have you seen Ghost? If it actually gets built it should be right up your street: http://john.onolan.org/ghost-from-fiction-to-function/
                                                        sivy
                                                          @danielw was that last empty post intentional, or were you being snarky? (feature: handle content after --- with no newline? :-) )
                                                          danielw
                                                            @sivy nope, I've got a full post in the .md file but I can't get it to show up.
                                                            danielw
                                                              @sivy got called away to pick my son up sick from school, so had to park it to try again later.
                                                              patrickrhone
                                                                @ats Actually, it would look and work a fair amount like typerighter.com. In fact, I’ve been trying to convince the developer to build something like it.
                                                                sivy
                                                                  @danielw gist it when you get a sec.
                                                                  patrickrhone
                                                                    @zero It is the sort of thing I would like if I could self host.
                                                                    cliophate
                                                                      @patrickrhone @shawnblanc This is actually more of a hack, than a new blogging engine, but this Wordpress plugin, tries to bring the Svbtle Post stuff to Wordpress. https://github.com/gravityonmars/wp-svbtle
                                                                      cliophate
                                                                        @patrickrhone @shawnblanc and of course, you can use the theme you want, I just used the post features for a while.
                                                                        sivy
                                                                          @danielw Can you make a simple change and then hit the "Update" button in Markbox? I'll watch the logs…
                                                                          maguay
                                                                            @patrickrhone @shawnblanc You could try out http://getkirby.com/, which is a flat-file, markdown CMS that I use. It has an online dashboard for writing if you want, or just write offline and upload your .txt or .md file.
                                                                            patrickrhone
                                                                              @davmendels I have not. That said, I speaking of more of a web native experience here.
                                                                              ats
                                                                                @patrickrhone I hadn't seen typerighter -- looks really cool. Thanks for the pointer.
                                                                                sivy
                                                                                  @danielw Cool, interesting. Will ping you with more information when I have it. :-)
                                                                                  patrickrhone
                                                                                    @voidfiles @shawnblanc I would argue that, since the dawn of the ability to communicate using symbols, the purpose was to publish in some form.
                                                                                    patrickrhone
                                                                                      @matthewlang Yes. Though I find it telling that he chose to publish that using an image as opposed to HTML/CSS
                                                                                      sivy
                                                                                        @danielw Huh. What platform are you on? How did you edit that file?
                                                                                        danielw
                                                                                          @sivy pretty sure I did it all using the dashboard. I opened it with SublimeText to check it, but don't think I've saved it using anything other than the dashboard/web editor.
                                                                                          sivy
                                                                                            @danielw Ok, thanks! There's some line ending weirdness going on, checking it out now.
                                                                                            davmendels
                                                                                              @patrickrhone that’s interesting. I keep thinking that the new web is away from the web. My bet being that apps will replace webpages within 2-3 years. Now in terms of online content creation???
                                                                                              andrewspittle
                                                                                                @patrickrhone @shawnblanc No way to make it the default without writing a plugin to do so. That said, you've got my mind churning on how to write that plugin. :) Ideal WP flow: click Posts > Add new and have it automagically be right in to fullscreen?
                                                                                                davmendels
                                                                                                  @patrickrhone I believe in serving content - nuance. Way I see it CSS’s importance is going to be greatly reduced…
                                                                                                  rianvdm
                                                                                                    @patrickrhone Have you tried MarsEdit? Writing view: http://cl.ly/LAt9
                                                                                                    voidfiles
                                                                                                      @patrickrhone I would agree with that. How often though is the form that we write also the form that we publish. We write on paper, but we don’t publish our hand written pages. As soon as we could stop hand copying books we did.
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                                                                                                      patrickrhone
                                                                                                        @rianvdm Yes. Though, my point is, why are the native interfaces good enough to use.
                                                                                                        voidfiles
                                                                                                          @patrickrhone @shawnblanc It’s great that Wordpress has a compose interface. It lets people simply write. But, if you look at tools like Octopress that divorce the composition interface from the publishing tool you’ll see that they are better for writers.
                                                                                                          teppo
                                                                                                            @patrickrhone that’s so true. I dread even entering the Wordpress writing screen because everything about it is so complex, too small or too slow. They’ve also managed to maximize the required steps in getting an image from file system to a post.
                                                                                                            maguay
                                                                                                              @danielgenser #kirby sure is great stuff. I still haven't tried out the Kirby Panel, though ... just writing in iA Writer and uploading with Transmit is working nicely for me.
                                                                                                              andrewspittle
                                                                                                                @patrickrhone I wrote that WordPress plugin for automatically using the fullscreen editor. Turned out to be fairly simple. Enjoy! :) http://andrewspittle.net/2012/12/12/just-write/
                                                                                                                patrickrhone
                                                                                                                  @andrewspittle OK. This is full of awesomesauce with a healthy toping of OMG! Thank you for doing this. Just tried it and it works like a charm.
                                                                                                                  andrewspittle
                                                                                                                    @patrickrhone You're welcome! Glad to hear it's working.
                                                                                                                    patrickrhone
                                                                                                                      @andrewspittle I think I might run away from home, move into a little WordPress box with this plugin, and never come out. I wont even speak to people except my typing into the box and pressing publish.
                                                                                                                      filmatu
                                                                                                                        @andrewspittle @patrickrhone Thank you for sharing. Where can I find the plugin? I just upgraded to WP 3.5 but can´t find it. Regards.
                                                                                                                        andrewspittle
                                                                                                                          @filmatu The plugin is hosted on GitHub for now. Toward the top left of this page is a ZIP link that will let you download it: https://github.com/andrewspittle/just-write Then you can add it to your site at Plugins > Add New.
                                                                                                                          patrickrhone
                                                                                                                            @filmatu Ah, you have to download it on Github here: Then upload the zip file to your plugins.
                                                                                                                            filmatu
                                                                                                                              @andrewspittle @patrickrhone Gracias. Too much used to visual UXs on the web, could´t find the zip on GitHub :) Done.