@phoneboy he didn't say anything about py or rb though he should actually be picking up those. Now, when you say you 'tried' learning Java in the 1990s... Was it learning learning or dive-deep-and-build-your-own learning?
@phoneboy I agree. That's why I'm working in a networking company with no certs. I couldn't extract the info out of him though. He just said he's learning Java now, which points to him being a bit of a drifter.