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johngordon
    Mori: yeah, Apple is in decline. (http://morrick.me/archives/7697) He is too kind.
    clarkgoble
      @johngordon I confess with El Cap I encounter far fewer bugs than I used to. In particular with Snow Leopard and Leopard I think people remember the past with rose colored glasses. And 10.3 and 10.4 were the first usable versions of OS X but had huge…
      clarkgoble
        @johngordon …limits and issues still. (FTFF is still a hue and cry but back then it really meant something)
        clarkgoble
          @johngordon That said the gap on far too many Mac models and the reluctance for incremental upgrades with newer GPUs is a HUGE problem for Apple.
          clarkgoble
            @jws @johngordon Fix the freaking Finder. It’s much better now although it still has some quirks (mainly with SMB) but in 10.3 -10.6 days it was pretty rough (IMO).
            clarkgoble
              @jws @johngordon I just chuckle a bit at people complaining about OS X now. Go back to the old threads for Leopard http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=730724#p730724 Lots of complaints.
              mjtsai
                @clarkgoble @jws @johngordon I thought it specifically referred to remembering icon and view settings, which is as broken as ever.
                clarkgoble
                  @mjtsai @jws @johngordon Good point. But lots of other things have been improved in the Finder. Remember how slow so many things used to be?
                  clarkgoble
                    @mjtsai @jws @johngordon Here’s Siracusa’s Leopard review on the Finder. (Admittedly he has some biases I don’t share - he liked the Sys9 Finder) http://arstechnica.com/apple/2007/10/mac-os-x-10-5/12/
                    mjtsai
                      @clarkgoble It did get more responsive. I just mean that I thought FTFF referred to supporting the OS 9–style usage.
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                      clarkgoble
                        @mjtsai @jws @johngordon My point was more about how long some bugs lasted from 10.2 on up to Leopard. I think people remember the past too unfairly. I do miss color sidebars though. Even in 10.6 the Finder has inexplicable beach balls I rarely see now.
                        mjtsai
                          @clarkgoble Oh, I remember those bugs. I think the 10.6 Finder was the first one that wasn't completely awful. I was using Path Finder until then.
                          clarkgoble
                            @mjtsai I think it was a catch all for problems. For some who loved the Sys9 Finder (I didn’t and thought it sucked with many files) that was included. To me it was the time outs and synchronous disk/network waiting that were worst.