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johngordon
    What I wrote in July 2012: http://bit.ly/Pszo2F. We can't fix our gun problem, we can dramatically improve schizophrenia care. #t
    clarkgoble
      @johngordon I'm not about to talk about guns today when everyone's emotions are so high. I wonder though how much we can do with mental illness given restrictions the supreme court put out back in the early 80's which is where many of the problem started.
      clarkgoble
        @johngordon Admittedly I'm a bit biased since I had a roommate in college with mental illness who wanted to kill me. I'll be the first to admit I don't think rationally about the mentally ill because of that. Not a lot of sympathy to people not taking meds
        clarkgoble
          @johngordon Interestingly @daveweigel on Twitter noted that the VA Tech tragedy was followed by bipartisan mental health reform. http://1.usa.gov/12dAusd Maybe not enough but there is a chance something could be done.
          johngordon
            @clarkgoble Most psychiatrists or mental health workers could come up with a practical list. We could do a lot without changes to laws. It costs money though. A modest tax on bullets perhaps?
            johngordon
              @clarkgoble Very encouraging. This might be the time.
              johngordon
                @clarkgoble Weird. I had same experience. I don't think he was serious about killing me though. Story has a twist, I wrote about it years ago. I became more sympathetic to the afflicted...
                clarkgoble
                  @johngordon sadly I think mine was. Started sleeping at a friend house on his couch. Roommate went nuts one night, vandalized house, raped two girls, was captured by police and locked up in asylum. Convinced had I been there I’d be dead.
                  clarkgoble
                    @johngordon while I’m leery of a lot of GC a tax on bullets to fund mental health treatment makes sense.
                    johngordon
                      @clarkgoble Maybe we could write a joint email to NYT and/or WSJ - bullet tax to fund enhanced schizophrenia support and management? OpEd would be better of course but I don't have cred to do that.
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                      johngordon
                        @clarkgoble @spacekatgal I wrote a blog post with both the "andrew" ref and comments and the tax bullets. Linked to the app.net thread too. http://notes.kateva.org/2012/12/tax-bullets-to-pay-for-better-mental.html
                        clarkgoble
                          @johngordon @spacekatgal probably should tax some of the other freedoms we enjoy that contribute to the problem such as certain types of media as well. Probably most of the recent increase in these sorts of events is tied to copycatting due to media.
                          johngordon
                            @clarkgoble we could do with more sober coverage.
                            clarkgoble
                              @johngordon Considering how egregiously the media has behaved this weekend I think that's an understatement. Even a lot of the media vips are ashamed.
                              clarkgoble
                                @johngordon Kind of pissed at the media - especially the cable new networks. But ABC behaved ridiculously bad too.
                                johngordon
                                  @clarkgoble Even though I don't see television I caught the scent of it.
                                  duerig
                                    @johngordon I would be fine with a $25k per mention tax on network tv. This would simultaneously reduce the panic/fear-mongering incentive and help fund mental health efforts. cc/ @clarkgoble
                                    clarkgoble
                                      @duerig @johngordon Yeah, but let's be honest. It'd almost certainly have people crying 1st amendment foul.
                                      duerig
                                        @clarkgoble @duerig That is true. But it is why I rarely turn to the television for news any more. :/
                                        clarkgoble
                                          @duerig Yeah. The media doesn't understand how they are killing themselves. There's a *reason* reporters are viewed even worse than congresspeople. Of course it'd also be funny to see the coverage of 1st vs 2cd amendment battles in the press.
                                          clarkgoble
                                            @duerig Loved all the 4th amendment jokes going around Twitter today noting the discrepancy between how people view things.
                                            johngordon
                                              @clarkgoble @duerig I think the bullet tax to fund mental health care is more likely to pass.
                                              clarkgoble
                                                @johngordon @duerig Oh no doubt, although the incentives aren't good for the bullet tax to be frank. GC proponents want real restrictions not changes in incentives. And no one really wants the expense of mental health reform.
                                                duerig
                                                  @johngordon I agree. I was just venting a bit of frustration at a news industry which manages to make us feel frightened when we live in one of the safest societies in history. I agree with your idea to improve our mental health services. cc/ @clarkgoble
                                                  clarkgoble
                                                    @duerig yeah, violence at something like a 60 year low.
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                                                      johngordon
                                                        @clarkgoble Yes, it would take a "worse" alternative to get the bullet tax through, so if GC seemed possible ... // @duerig