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ricmac
    This is a question I'm seeing a lot from developers about App.net: "I don't get why I should back a project which is not open source. What's the point in that?" That's from comments of my RWW post. @dalton et al, what's your response to that?
    dalton
      @ricmac it's hard to adequately debate not being in person, or in full blogpost, but as long as protocols/APIs are open and documented, whether or not server implementation is opensourced seems less relevant
      dalton
        @ricmac and to be clear we are *not* saying that we will not open source things, we are just trying to not over-promise at this point in time. There are a few pieces we are already thinking about putting on github
        cameron
          @ricmac @dalton why would you buy a car? Is it open source? A TV? XBOX? Are restaurant recipes open source? The real question is, why does something need to be open source to be valuable and worth spending money on?
          getboyce
            Shared @cameron: @ricmac @dalton why would you buy a car? Is it open source? A TV? XBOX? Are restaurant recipes open source? The real question is, why does something need to be open source to be valuable and worth spending money on?
            dalton
              @ricmac the biggest point I want people to understand is that App.net is an operating service, not a codedrop. Remember this "blueprint" for the company is github or dropbox, both "services" companies
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              elehack
                @dalton @ricmac Add "data exportable" (thrilled @adn has export, BTW), and I pretty much agree. If I can get my data, in the worst case I can write code to process it. Having exact server code less important to me.
                ricmac
                  @dalton Thanks for clarifying. I see your points, but it seems you have a bit of convincing to do for the comments here: http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/backers-hackers-start-playing-with-appnet.php
                  dalton
                    @ricmac Please understand that the near-term goal is not to convince *all* of the people, it's to convince *enough* of the people. That is how I have defined critical mass, and have blogged about this "enough of the people" concept extensively.
                    ricmac
                      @dalton Fair enough! You certainly can't please everyone, that's a cardinal rule of good blogging too :)
                      kaspernymand
                        @matthew #bug I don't know, if it's just me, but when I tap on a post to view it in the "second window", and then scrolling down to the last comment, then you will often only be able to see a part of it, because you can't scroll further. #shrtmsg
                        matthew
                          @kaspernymand Try refreshing your browser twice. This was a bug I fixed earlier today, you might still be using the old version.
                          kaspernymand
                            @matthew Ahh.. yeah! It works now. Thanks!
                            slackerstyle
                              Kind of amused at the conversation thread I'm replying to here. Liked the @ricmac & @dalton discussion at the start. Then I reached @kaspernymand's post.