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          @katcaverly @joshblake @kohlmannj Sorry that happened, but for those of us who have built a community its par for the course. The Internet is a rough place. Gotta have a thick skin. If you're looking for nice people, I recommend 4chan.org. :)
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            @katcaverly That's funny, I assumed ADN stood for "App Dot Net." I mean, it could, right?
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                  @katcaverly That's because you can't express full thoughts on Twitter. No threads, 140 character limits, so meaningful interactions don't happen. I see far worse shit on Facebook every day than what you've been called. And those people know each other IRL
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                        @katcaverly 140 characters isn't enough for me to communicate in. My average post length here is 156 characters.
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                          @katcaverly We see what we want and love what we see; I know I'm sensitive, and effectively have no stake in AdN. It's the potential in the air. :)
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                            @katcaverly @clint best thing we can all be right now is open. I agree that a meaningful definition of "member" is far off right now. Hopefully a strong community emerges from the (hopefully figurative!) trial by fire. What I mean is, peace everyone. :)
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                              @katcaverly As far as being dealt with respectfully, I keep coming back to, you've obviously never built a community before. You will get called names again, I guarantee it. Two choices. Deal with it, or stop expressing ideas.
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                                RP @clint: @katcaverly As far as being dealt with respectfully, I keep coming back to, you've obviously never built a community before. You will get called names again, I guarantee it. Two choices. Deal with it, or stop expressing ideas.
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                                      @katcaverly Because that's how people behave. When their ideas are threatened, they attack.
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                                          Because this: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19/ @q» @katcaverly: @clint why does building community have to include being called names based on disagreement over one's ideas?
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                                            @katcaverly Let me ask you a few simple questions. When did you first get on the Internet? Have you ever been on a mailing list? Have you ever discussed politics on the Internet? Have you ever spent time on IRC?
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                                              LOL » @joshblake: Because this: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19/ @q» @katcaverly: @clint why does building community have to include being called names based on disagreement over one's ideas?
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                                                    @clint @katcaverly stay strong or as Jay-Z says "gonna brush your shoulders off"
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                                                        @katcaverly Waiting on an answer to my questions :). Seriously, go to CNN's comments section. Brutal.
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                                                          @clint this is one of my favorite series of questions ever. It's kind of like asking when did you fall off the turnip truck?
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                                                              @katcaverly Then I'd recommend staying off the Internet. And away from pretty much any community for that matter. I've been called worse when I went to church than I have in many Internet communities.
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                                                                        @katcaverly yeah, people are mean, get over it. Ask a few questions that challenge Christian ideals and it's amazing what they'll call you, both to your face and behind your back. And I went to that church for 16 years. Sorry I mentioned religion everyone
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                                                                          @katcaverly Just a simple example "What happens to Hindus when they die?" When you get the expected answer, "What did they do wrong to deserve that?" Etc. People get upset when you challenge their beliefs.
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                                                                            @katcaverly Be strong. The world needs trolls. We cut through the niceness to point out the truth, and then we watch as hundreds of others begin to echo it in their own words, as if it had been their idea. Troll the world, sister. #trolltheworld
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                                                                                    @katcaverly You say you're "not new to this rodeo", but the complaining and righteous indignation about the name calling indicates otherwise. In a round about way, I'm simply saying get over it. Sorry that happened, but it's just not a big deal.
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                                                                                      @katcaverly If you believe that much in your ideas, then a little name calling is just the price you pay for convincing the world you're right. Circular debate happening here, so I'll leave it at that.
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                                                                                          @hxf148 #INEEDMOREPAGEVIEWS "Twitter is dead." "Facebook is dead." "App.net is the new Twitter killer." "AppApp is the new TweetBot killer." God it gets so old.
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                                                                                            @katcaverly It is. People don't feel good when they have their beliefs and values challenged, so they hit back. Good trolls can take the pain, and they only troll in places and times of great need. Then they fade back into the ether until needed again.
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                                                                                                @katcaverly Good. Then you have a gift that many of us don't. So chin up, shoulders back, smile, and get back out there and troll your heart out. As long as it is appropriate, at least minimally constructive, and keeps you laughing. #trolltheworld
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                                                                                                    @katcaverly One benefit of ADN is that it leaves more room for exclamation points. You can always use a couple more; it helps emphasize your certainty and the fact that people should definitely listen to you. #protip
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                                                                                                        @katcaverly There ya go. The key to leveling up in this game is to take the criticism, feel the burn, make coolheaded decision to modify or not modify behavior based on value of criticism... and then #trolltheworld
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                                                                                                            Annnnnnd... you lost me.
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                                                                                                              @katcaverly To give feedback that's more specific and perhaps more helpful: you lost me at "warrior princess".
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                                                                                                                @dalton @orian Wowww quite a thread here. Orian a tad less lofty than your post...!
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                                                                                                                  @rachelsklar thanks for bringing my attention to it :)
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                                                                                                                    @katcaverly I do think programmers are often extremely skeptical and opinionated people. It is quite possible that the early community here is different than any other once you've been involved with before. Maybe, maybe not. But...
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                                                                                                                      @katcaverly ... I really wouldn't get discouraged. I've seen you express some strong opinions on here yourself. I think that's great. But I think it would be a mistake to think that just because everyone here paid to be here that everyone will be nice.
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                                                                                                                        Shared @orian: @katcaverly I do think programmers are often extremely skeptical and opinionated people. It is quite possible that the early community here is different than any other once you've been involved with before. Maybe, maybe not. But...
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                                                                                                                          @katcaverly I think it's a given that most of the people here are passionate about what they think this is or could be, especially since it's so new.
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